Tailoring Vs. Blacksmithing - Proc Vs On Demand AP

I had an interesting conversation a few days ago with a fellow warrior and he brought up a great point about professions.
MOST warriors I’ve run into take to professions blacksmithing and some gathering (usually mining) I think it’s because of the way it appears that you can make your own gear if you blacksmith your own items.

First off let’s not kid ourselves; you’re not going to make your own gear beyond level...15.

After that what do you get from blacksmithing as a profession? If you don’t know I’ll tell you.
You get an extra 2 sockets for gems.

1 in your bracers and 1 in your gloves.
So depending on how you view things you can go 20+ strength or 20+ ArP. (If you’ve gone with mining as your “other” profession)

So what does that translate into? Well respectively it’s 80 AP( 20 strength x 2 gems x 2 AP per strength) or you can get 40 ArP rating.
....wooohooo???? I mean really 80 AP is all you get for spending all that money and time it takes to get Blacksmithing up?

So here’s the idea that’s been posed.
WHAT ABOUT TAILORING?

Ok high end tailor gives you the following
400 AP for 15 Seconds. I’m told the proc rate is once per minute.

IF that is the case then here are the numbers.
400/60 = 6.667 AP per second
6.6667*15 seconds = 100AP bonus increase in your AP Over a minutes time.

Compare that against the bonus from blacksmithing which is 80 (88 if you have a 10% stat increase)

Well what about the berserker weapon enchant?

Well let’s look at it like this. I’m sure we’re all aware of the Berserker Enchant, which is basically a 1000g+ version of the tailoring profession + an armor reduction debuff. How man arms warriors do you see with this enchant...now you can ask them why

Ironically enough if we look at the math on the Tailoring we can clearly see that Massacre is a much better berserker as Berserker will only create a 100AP bonus every minute (if it procs every minute) whereas massacre is a consistent 110ap.

So how does this translate into warrior speak.

Well first off in a PVP setting I personally don’t like “Proc” trinkets. Things like the anvil and mirror, even victory banner from TOC have a 1000 ap proc chance...but what happens when you get the proc but there’s nothing to hit? Or you’ve been frozen and that proc is steadily ticking away? Don’t get me wrong it’s a VERY nice thing to have when you’re able to hit something, but when in arena and battle ground sometimes you’re not always able to be right up on an opponent.

So even if we look at the tailoring bonus (100AP/min) vs the two gem bonus (80 AP/Min) in order for the tailoring bonus to come into play in a pvp setting you’d have to be ON your target when it procced and hope to all hell the target stood still for 15 seconds while you used your new AP bonus. (god forbid it’s a mage with blink up, or a druid who decides to cyclone you)

So I would personally say in a PVP setting you’d be better off with a CONSISTENT bonus to your AP

PVE is another story IMHO as you tend to ALWAYS be on a target. For PVE I will always run with my Anvil and my Victory Banner (I don’t like the mirror because it requires I be hit, whereas the anvil requires me to hit) and THEY CAN BOTH PROC AT THE SAME TIME. On test dummies while being SELF buffed I can get to over 6k AP...self buffed mind you, and as they have the same time on CD they tend to both proc at the same time as they are both “HIT” trinkets.

I would think the same applies in regards to Massacre and Berserker. The berserker enchant works exactly like the Tailoring as we’ve said so that’s 100AP bonus in a minute. Massacre ALWAYS gives you 110 AP, so IMHO I would try for Massacre over berserker.

So I’ll pose the question what’s your opinion on the matter. I’ve stated my case...do you have a different take on the matter?

http://wow-warrior-forum.webmmorpg.net/general-warrior-info-f6/on-demand-or-proc-tailoring-or-blacksmithing-t30.htm#140

Let us know what you think